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New Post 9/20/2010 4:22 PM
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  richardlpalmer
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Saved songs & output sound quality  (United States)

I'm trying to save a slowed song as an mp3 file but each time I attempt it I'm getting a ton of static/distortion. So much so that the song file is unusable.

I've tried this with two different version of the source file. One is a WMA file, the other is an MP3. Neither of them work once I save the song in GDT.

Just to be clear on what I'm doing. I'm opening the source file in GDT, changing the speed of the song -20 and then using File > Save Slowed/Pitch Shifted Song to save the song as an MP3.

Here are 2 original source files so you can see what I'm starting with

WMA Version: www.richardlpalmer.com/media/gdt/Down%20with%20the%20sickness%20-%20Backing%20track.wma

MP3 Version: www.richardlpalmer.com/media/gdt/Down%20with%20the%20sickness%20-%20Backing%20track.mp3

And here is what is being output from GDT.

MP3 Version: www.richardlpalmer.com/media/gdt/Down%20with%20the%20sickness%20-%20Backing%20track%20(slow).mp3

As you can see, the output file is completely unuseable. With my description of what I'm doing above, do you have any idea what I'm doing wrong?

 
New Post 9/20/2010 11:04 PM
  Ryan Smyth
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Re: Saved songs & output sound quality  (Australia)

Hello Richard,

You're not doing anything wrong. The process is very straight forward. Unless... You need to change the speed in the Speed & Pitch encoder window, and not in the main GDT window.

I encoded the file 6 times as you described, without any issues. I can't reproduce the problem. The encoder is the LAME encoder, and I can't find any references for anyone with that problem. It seems as though the issue is between where GDT passes the data to LAME. Without more information though, I'm flying blind.

Can you use the FLAC encoder? (FLAC is lossless and produces better sound quality anyways.) Knowing whether you get a file of hiss there would help isolate the problem.

Now, I did notice something very strange... The slowed down version of Down with the Sickness that you have above has some bizarre tags:

Title: Ocean Waves
Artist: Echoes of Nature
Album: Echoes of Nature: Sampler
Genre: New Age
Creators: Echoes of Nature
Year: 1993

Does that make any sense to you? Does it shed any light on things?

Regards,

Ryan

 
New Post 9/21/2010 8:07 AM
  richardlpalmer
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Re: Saved songs & output sound quality  (United States)
Modified By richardlpalmer  on 9/21/2010 10:08:49 AM)

I was able to export it using the FLAC encoder, no problem. And while that isn't a common file format for playback, I was able to open it in Audacity and then save it as an mp3 from there -- sounds great. I'm wondering if there's a problem with the LAME encoder.

I originally installed the LAME encoder in Audacity. Later, when I tried to export the file from GDT to mp3 it gave a message that the LAME.exe needed to be copied to the GDT directory, so I did. Maybe I did this wrong? I ran it, just like I did when doing it for Audacity -- except I chose the Renegade Minds > Guitar And Drum Trainer directory...

What I had to do above is somewhat workable -- I mean, I can get a file made. But it's very bulky (going from Audacity to create an mp3/wma, to GDT to create an FLAC, to Audacity again to convert it mp3.) If I could debug this I'd be a much happier person. :)

Oh, as for the tags, I don't have much data. My guess is they were tags from earlier work that came up as default values. I didn't do the initial rip and didn't change any of the tags as I did my work...

 
New Post 9/21/2010 10:39 AM
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  Ryan Smyth
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Re: Saved songs & output sound quality  (Australia)

Did you download LAME from http://renegademinds.com/Portals/0/lame.zip here? If you downloaded LAME from somewhere else, or used the same LAME as you are using for Audacity, that could be the problem. The LAME from here is 520,192 bytes.

 
New Post 9/24/2010 7:37 PM
  richardlpalmer
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Re: Saved songs & output sound quality  (United States)

 Ryan Smyth wrote

Did you download LAME from http://renegademinds.com/Portals/0/lame.zip here? If you downloaded LAME from somewhere else, or used the same LAME as you are using for Audacity, that could be the problem. The LAME from here is 520,192 bytes.

You know, that might be the problem. I'll try the link you provided and then try again. I thought I followed the prompts from GDT when trying to export it as an mp3 but maybe I didn't. Oh well, here goes nothing! :)

 
New Post 9/24/2010 8:31 PM
  richardlpalmer
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Re: Saved songs & output sound quality  (United States)

Okay, when I attempt to run that .exe file nothing much happens. I don't get an installer -- it just flashes a command line prompt screen for a fraction of a second and then it goes away. I don't see anything running in my Task Manager, either. Thoughts?

 
New Post 9/25/2010 3:17 AM
  Ryan Smyth
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Re: Saved songs & output sound quality  (Australia)

 richardlpalmer wrote

Okay, when I attempt to run that .exe file nothing much happens. I don't get an installer -- it just flashes a command line prompt screen for a fraction of a second and then it goes away. I don't see anything running in my Task Manager, either. Thoughts?

That's the expected behavior. GDT actually uses the EXE, not you. So just copy the LAME.EXE file to the GDT program files folder. That's something like:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Renegade Minds\Guitar and Drum Trainer v4

Once you have the file copied there, THEN run GDT, load your song, click the "Save Slowed/Pitch Shifted Song" and there you go. Choose MP3, set the speed & click the Encode button.

 

 
New Post 9/26/2010 4:57 AM
  richardlpalmer
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Re: Saved songs & output sound quality  (United States)

 Ryan Smyth wrote

 richardlpalmer wrote

Okay, when I attempt to run that .exe file nothing much happens. I don't get an installer -- it just flashes a command line prompt screen for a fraction of a second and then it goes away. I don't see anything running in my Task Manager, either. Thoughts?

 

That's the expected behavior. GDT actually uses the EXE, not you. So just copy the LAME.EXE file to the GDT program files folder. That's something like:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Renegade Minds\Guitar and Drum Trainer v4

Once you have the file copied there, THEN run GDT, load your song, click the "Save Slowed/Pitch Shifted Song" and there you go. Choose MP3, set the speed & click the Encode button.

 

Okay, looks like that did the trick. Hurrah!

I must have used a different lame.exe file or this one was corrupt in some fashion. But it seems to be working fine now. Thanks for the help! :)

 
New Post 9/26/2010 7:10 AM
  Ryan Smyth
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Re: Saved songs & output sound quality  (Australia)

 richardlpalmer wrote

Okay, looks like that did the trick. Hurrah!

I must have used a different lame.exe file or this one was corrupt in some fashion. But it seems to be working fine now. Thanks for the help! :)

Excellent! Thanks for letting me know! If it happens again, I'll have the answer ready much quicker then!

 
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